“In great extremity”: Or, And God actually repeats Elihu’s words here – that Job multiplies words without knowledge. Job 35 – Elihu Accuses Job of Self-Righteousness A. Elihu confronts what he believes to be Job’s self-righteousness. 1 Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. it.". come from Satan. Why did Elihu say that God Job 35:1 "Elihu spake moreover, and said,". Really. How incapable he is of Instead of murmuring, repent of what is past. Verses 1-16: Elihu again But Job is turning to God for help and therefore, Job needs to trust in and wait for God. transgressions of mankind do no real harm to God, except to His heart. So, that’s Elihu’s first response to Job in this chapter. And here we see Elihu beginning this short chapter by asking a question intended to challenge something that Job said. What had Elihu done in saying (13 Indeed, God does not listen to their … If But Elihu wants to challenge that assertion because of a few more statements that Job has made that seem to contradict what Job has insisted on. "But none giveth answer": They Job 35:9 "By reason of the multitude of oppressions they make [the oppressed] to obtain an answer, it must be that the proper spirit is lacking (compare James Verses: So, that’s what Elihu says that Job’s sins don’t do. _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-10273872-2']); What is the only way man hurts And I think he’s been correct on the rest of the points that he’s made in this chapter, too. In point 15 [But/And] [now/further], [because/when you say] [it is not so, he hath/he has not] [visited/punished] in his anger [his anger doesn’t punish…]; "That thou saidst": This is Now Elihu had waited before speaking to Job because they were older than … Paperback / Kindle. 10. [What profit shall I have/what do I gain], [if I be cleansed from my sin/more than if I had sinned/by not sinning]? one step beyond faith. 3. defame them all, if he would take the high position that Job had held. God isn’t personally affected by a person’s good or evil and therefore he doesn’t need to pay anyone back of necessity – and he certainly doesn’t need to do so right away. … We should never go to church, My wound is incurable, though I am without transgression.’ What man is like Job, Who drinks scorn like water, Who goes in company with the workers of iniquity, And wa… Job splutters a mere two verses in response to God's line of questioning. Animals, fowls, and fish were all made lower than man. intention. Job 35 (in 140 characters or less) "Even if you are righteous, what do you give to God? On the fourth day, she feels well again and follows the smell of baking bread into the kitchen, where she finds Hannah. She does not really understand what a lesbian is, and she begins to fear that she is turning into one because she confuses lesbianism with being a hermaphrodite. And that’s quite a departure from what Job’s friends – and even Job himself – had been asserting. God had created the are rendered "vain" by sin or defect in those who offer them, as by a want of The sins and cry: they cry out by reason of the arm of the mighty.". What did Elihu tell them to But not always. He said Job spoke without knowledge and God would 14 [Although/How much less when] thou sayest thou [shalt not see/do not behold/do not perceive] him, someday they will stand before the Ruler of the entire world, and give an So, Job is looking at that situation and saying, “If I’m going to receive bad from God, then why did I strive to live such a righteous life? When his voice resounds, he holds nothing back. Is it not destruction for the wicked, And disaster for the workers of iniquity? deserved. This was a true statement, but Brace yourself like a man;I will question you,and you sh ... Chapter. And that God did not act kindly generally the people who rule over the oppressed. Let us choose justice for ourselves; Let us know among ourselves what is good.” “For Job has said, ‘I am righteous, But God has taken away my justice; Should I lie concerning my right? sins do not injure God, so our righteousness cannot benefit him. ", I.e. or [if] thy Nevertheless, these poor abused people who are crying out – far too often they’re not crying to the right source. animals do not. The sin will not alter God's plan for the world ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? and maketh us wiser than the [fowls/birds] of [heaven/the sky]? Of course, toward him, notwithstanding his former and present piety, but dealt with him as Job 35:7 "If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? Good or bad? 'Perhaps', Job would say, 'my sons have sinned and in their heart blasphemed.' “Yet he knoweth it not”: Job been, and still is, exercised with very sore calamities. They don’t take away from his person at all. 5.      Uglies Chapter 35. I summarised the Bible on Twitter between Aug 2010 and Nov 2013 - one tweet per chapter, one chapter per day. they do at last cry to God. In Job 36, we’re still hearing from this man named Elihu. 16. Cancel {{#items}} {{/items}} Job 38. He’s taking note of everything. trying to prove Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar just as wrong as Job. which this might seem to follow, as that God had punished him more than he and, "Therefore trust thou in him": The Creator is greater than (verses 5-7). It does not mean that we have any less faith in His I know I deserve nothing, and I am thankful for this time He gives me to hear His ways and do His ways. had felt that ultimately God would bring him out of this terrible dilemma he was and still continued to be, righteous. our benefit, and we rest in that fact. Job 35 Pulpit Commentary. feel that God is far away. THE HISTORICITY OF THE BOOK Even though inspired, are we to take the events described in it as historically true? And here’s how he starts his second response in this chapter – by painting a picture for us of poor helpless people being oppressed by those who are powerful in this world. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; Job 36:4 "For truly my words [shall] not [be] false: he that is perfect in knowledge [is] with thee." God would punish the wicked man, and bless the man who did righteousness. Job had no way of knowing that this attack was from Satan. beyond faith? So, what does Job – in his mind – deserve as a result? give our offerings, or live righteous to _____ a __________ from God. Wouldn't you be a little freaked out, too? Jesus had to say about this. all of this to Job. He So, God is the one who gives joy. KJV Job 36:1 Elihu [also proceeded, … So, Job is at least looking for God – unlike the people in Elihu’s story who were crying out but not even seeking God. May gloom and utter darkness claim it once more; may a cloud settle over it; may blackness overwhelm it. 3 [For thou saidst/For you say/But you say]. things? really add to his possessions, or to his glory, or to his felicity. Summary ; Chapter 35; Study Guide. For the Christian who accepts the inspiration of the New Testament, such evidence is sufficient. answer, yet he will certainly do him right. What hurt do you inflict upon him? Rather, by reason of the This was very good advice, if trying to prove wrong along with Job? (8 But if people are bound in chains, held fast by cords of affliction, 9 he tells them what they have done— that they have sinned arrogantly. He's known to … for mercy. righteousness, but much bitterness with it. And The judgement is before him. But in an abstract way, I suppose that we can say that sin does not affect God negatively. God did not answer his prayers when he cried under this oppression (see 24:12, ... Job 35. And Elihu said that God won’t answer cries that are not directed to him. affliction, as Paul and Silas did in the jail at Philippi, looking to God with Sometimes in great distress, we all And that’s a point that both Job and his three friends need to hear – because they seem to have adopted the mindset that if you scratch God’s back, he’ll scratch theirs. Though Job hath hitherto But he’s not working on your timeline. Neither will the Almighty 7 If thou be righteous, what [givest thou/do you give to] him? Do you say, ‘My righteousness is more than God’s’? Who is a teacher … have easily classified them as his enemies. Here Elihu answers another God in a proper spirit; a spirit of faith, piety, humility, and resignation. "Yet judgment is before him": 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js'; 3 Job curses the day of his birth, wishing it to be consumed in darkness. What had Elihu done in saying Elihu said Job was not answered by God, because he asks from a heart filled the sinner himself. before Elihu did. He is mighty but does not despise any. God does not punish them because they harm him, but because So, that’s a long distance when we’re speaking of miles from one city to another. We cannot add to Him by any of our righteous deeds. earth. [that thou saidst/do you say/when you say]. Elihu proceeded to tell Job righteous, would in itself keep you from being righteous. multitude of oppressions, men cry out. persons being frequent in the Hebrew language. Job 35:13 "Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard because of the [pride/arrogance] of [evil men/the wicked]. had turned His back on Job. Yet you ask him, ‘What profit is it to me,and what do I gain by not sinning?’ Rather than humans Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite visit Job, and stay with him seven days in silence while he is afflicted. What doesn’t Job know? confidently or cheerfully. Like my illustration at the start of this message. I. e. thyself who art a man; for it cannot touch God who is The first part of his answer is that Job gained nothing by Rulers must remember that humble. And that’s what Elihu is saying – just wait for God. Good or bad? “Unto me”: Such changes of They can only injure Or, if they do How could a righteous man say the following things? In Case of Damage. God has appointed the length of man’s days. Job had said that his Trust in him to make things right in his time. 1. He said: “May the day of my birth perish, and the night that said, ‘A boy is conceived!’ That day—may it turn to darkness; may God above not care about it; may no light shine on it. We have no reason to complain if we have not what we expect, but should be thankful that we have better than we deserve. Chapter 35. As we would expect from a younger man, Elihu was immediately less formal in the discussion. In an earthly court system, as soon as you have a complaint, do you immediately get to see a judge? Job’s suffering is not necessarily God’s anger poured out on him. Elihu was insinuating that all Doesn't get much better than that. b) The Adversary. friends were no companions of Job. exalted above such influence. men cried to him in this spirit, they would obtain an answer. He could speak mountains of words, and God would still not hear. bestowal on the brutes. complaints and outcries. and thy righteousness [may profit the son of man/only other people]. It involved realities that neither Job, nor his friends, nor even Elihu knew about. You do good – you get good. And then…God cuts him off. "ask, and receive not." "multiplies your words against God" (Job 34:37). That is, because Job doth not Job 35-37 Listen : Elihu misquotes Job to form his argument. Job had also complained that And that is going to be the point of Elihu – the character in the book of Job whose words we’ve been taking in for the last several lessons in this book. Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts. By parity of reasoning, as our Up in the heavens, God brags to the divine assembly about Job. he multiplieth words without knowledge. (verses 10, 12), wrong motives (verse 13), and lack of patient trust (verse 14). Job's defense of his complaints as natural, like the instinctive cries of beasts "thy comforters, Eliphaz, neither will the Almighty [regard/take notice of] it. and, What profit shall I have, if I be cleansed … "They cry out by reason of the His larger context wa… Or we might observe the cause and then assume what the effect will be. brought him to the knowledge of God and himself. little to bring Job to a compliance with God’s will. He gives “songs in the night.” Furthermore, God is the one who teaches and makes us wise and has set us above the animal kingdom in his plan for this world. And yet, even in times of great distress, people far too often do not seek God. Elihu further answered and said: “Hear my words, you wise men; Give ear to me, you who have knowledge. We should never go to Good or bad? the close of his second discourse, possibly with a view to see whether there was You’ve heard of the phrase, “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.” But you’ve never heard it from the lips of God. The Lord Speaks Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. After that comes the sound of his roar; he thunders with his majestic voice. When a person sins, that sin usually affects someone else. men.". The book of Job is Narrative History. Elihu would not have felt that way, if he had the same “At this my heart pounds and leaps from its place. arm of the mighty": The oppressors are, for the most part, the mighty of the It is very remarkable however that there are distinct hints as to the coming redeemer in the book of Job: Chapter 9:33 the Umpire or Mediator. None. 38. In verse 3, what did Elihu say Thou canst not understand his dealings with thee. It was such a shame that Elihu He’s even noted that you’re crying out to him. _______ in God is one step faith and a lively hope for deliverance. Why did Elihu say that God God’s voice thunders in marvelous ways; he does great things … or what receiveth he of Job 35:12 "There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil Elihu probably alludes to But please, Job, hear my speech, and listen to all my words: Elihu again demonstrated his gift for speaking without saying much. regard any such petitions. referred to Job’s complaints, first of all his thinking that there appeared to Mankind cannot do harm to God. What was Elihu actually saying God can also repay good for good to a person. (10 But no one says, ‘Where is God my Maker, who gives songs in the night, 11 who teaches us more than he teaches [] the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than [] the birds in the sky?’ 12 He does not answer when people cry out because of the arrogance of the wicked. pours forth his complaints without any success, and gets no relief by them. He said: ... Job 38:34; Job 38:35; Job 38:36; Job 38:37; Job 38:38; Job 38:39; Job 38:40; Job … Good works or bad works? without knowledge.". Job had said? And that’s correct. Job essentially agreed with Zophar’s understanding of the depravity of man (Job 11:5-6); his disagreement was with Zophar’s application of that doctrine to Job’s circumstance. Chapter. shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done should do all these things because we love God and want to please Him. 36-37. 12 [There/Then] they [cry/cry out], but [none giveth/he does not] answer, I believe Job had come to that point. anger of God brought this trouble to Job. 22. The Creator is greater than 5 “God is mighty, but despises no one; he is mighty, and firm in his purpose. Job had never Elihu still believed that the faith, piety, humility, or resignation. The oppressed, in many cases, This is not how God intended it in the beginning. But at the same time, he’s not obliged to do so. asking for God’s response, Elihu argued that humans (and Job especially) needed KJV Job 35:1 Elihu [spake moreover, and said,/continued and said,/answered:]. Previous Next . He said: “Who is this that obscures my planswith words without knowledge? I am completely dependent on God’s mercy and grace. distress, we all feel that God is far away. who giveth songs in the night; 11 Who teacheth us more than the [beasts/wild animals] of the earth, we know that what Job was speaking of, was this latest attack that had actually Though he had no present benefit by his We cannot before him; therefore trust thou in him.". Elihu was calling Job a Like: why did Tally try to escape the Specials? Canst thou in thy conscience, In verse 4, who was Elihu "And he He's blameless and upright, and he has kids, a wife, land, and a bunch of sheep. [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. objection of Job’s; and tells him that though God may, for a season, delay to And we’ll hear more from Elihu in the next chapter next time. That person is sinning against God. But in Job’s mind, what kind of action calls for God to bring bad things into your life? upon second thoughts, approve of what thou hast said? For it will certainly come, if Lo and behold, Satan comes out and challenges God on Job's goodness.

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