But what really puzzled me was this somewhat ad hominem statement - 'It's people like you that would tell TS Eliot to change "Let us go then, you and I" to "Let us go then, you and me" which would positively screw up one of the best loved lines in English literature, just because of your preposterous need to cling to the rules in all instances rather than using your ears and your mind and treating rules as the rough guidelines they are. There are instances where "I have" and I have got" mean the same thing. I might just add that the usage of the present perfect to talk about actions happening in the present is not solely and English issue. And I agree that in formal writing 'I have' is more appropriate. Permalink Re teaching English as a "second" language:Today the need often for business or academic English - emails and essays - and some of the course books are beginning to show this. 2. @PorscheHow about "I have to go" vs "I have got to go"?or "I have to have an operation" vs "I have got to have an operation"? doesn't work, but "Got a car?" belong to. It's standard and is a completely different usage than what's being discussed here. When someone does something that goes against you. So: I have got = I got something in the past so I have it now. then its unclear whether yu asking "Do yu hav it?" Problem is it isn’t in my Webster’s Collegiate or the online Merriam–Webster.com but both references define got as past and past participle of get. It is a present tense - it's called the present perfect tense. Oddly, yu won't find it written out much that way ... at least not beyond chats and maybe some forums. They also say that this use for possession is mainly in BrE. I believe he was thinking of 'to get' as in 'to obtain' or 'to acquire'. What's more British course books don't "make a huge fuss" about "have got to", they simply let foreign students know that British native speakers will often use this. But "have to" has exactly the same meaning as "have got to" and their negatives correspond. You complained that "got" has been stretched to mean present tense possession. which has present implication. There are even a few grammatical differences: many BrE speakers (and their media) prefer a plural verb with group nouns like team, government etc, but this seems anathema to many AmE speakers. It's simply an idiomatic version of 'I have' which can only be used in the present; for other times we need to use 'have'. I've gotten the book -- present perfect meaning I've already obtained it). Permalink However, as with all trivial differences to a skilled practitioner of language it can be exploited to great effect. As a Canadian raised in the US, I think I may be stuck somewhere between British and American usage on some of these topics. In fact if your Present perfect theory is correct, how do you explain "have got to" - the Present perfect of "get to"? @Jim - I've sent 4 dictionary references as well as some grammar website references, but they're being held over for approval (too many URLs). @Jackbox - my 'full stop' was meant to be an ironic reply to @Jim's 'period'. Translations in context of "I've got" in English-Dutch from Reverso Context: i've got to, i've got something, i've got one, i've got two, i've got nothing You really have to put emphasis on the contraction (when speaking) to make it sound correct to the listener. However there is also the matter of register, date, context, genre, intonation, background culture and which dialect of English we are addressing. This si a world away from "The Chinese have invented fireworks" which is not grammatically correct given what we know about fireworks. It was two other adults, myself, and two children. If we didn't have Standard English, what would linguists mean when they say that an utterance such as 'I ain't never seen him' or 'He were in t'pub' are non-standard? See comment above), but @Jim, please look under 'have got', not 'got', which is something completely different. porsche (above) says: 'The present perfect is used to describe past events that happened at an unspecified time. But in speech, or prose that resembles speech, you will probably want have got. I find it interesting that I did pick it up from someone else though, but I enjoy it. But there's no reason why this should be about the recent past either. When you say "I have" something, it means that you are in possession of it, nothing more and nothing less. Permalink http://books.google.com/books?id=2yJusP0vrdgC&pg=PA498. Much of linguist David Crystal's 'The Stories of English' is about how this standard came about. "Do you have a condom?" I’m mainly suggesting the words are interchanged so often (by those that don’t seem to know the definitions) that their distinction is lost. 5 years ago. @Kernel Sanders - I'm afraid I have to disagree with you about these nuanced differences. Contractions are used for expedience, so go for the most efficient form that doesn't confuse. In fact, I wonder if American English speakers would hear this as anything other than someone trying to be pretentious. @AnwulfJohn could also have said "Yes, I have it", or maybe even "Yes, mum". 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